This is a curiosity podcast. For those who find themselves asking: “There has to be a better way, right? There just has to be.” Join Hui Chen and Zach Coseglia, the co-founders of CDE Advisors, as they explore the worlds of culture, data, and ethics—and search for new ways to tackle long-standing organizational challenges. You can listen here or subscribe and follow us on Apple or Spotify (links below).
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Ep.26: The Metrics Not Enough of Us Track
Zach and Hui (once again) break down the difference between outputs and outcomes, highlighting the overlooked data and behavioral metrics that can tell a story about culture, knowledge, and program effectiveness.
Ep.23: The Psychology of Compliance Training
A conversation with Dr. Leann Pereira on the psychology of compliance learning—and how effective training demands an intense focus on culture, data, and the delivery of relevant content.
Ep.21: Critical Thinking: An Underused Superpower?
In this episode, Zach and Hui unpack why critical thinking—rooted in curiosity, evidence, and logic—is essential for ethics, compliance, and culture, and how to navigate the traps that derail it.
Ep.14: Outcomes Over Output
Zach and Hui are back on their soap box. In this episode of The Better Way?, they discuss why measuring outcomes isn’t just "a better way," it’s critical to the credibility of our profession.
