This is a curiosity podcast. For those who find themselves asking: “There has to be a better way, right? There just has to be.” Join Hui Chen and Zach Coseglia, the co-founders of CDE Advisors, as they explore the worlds of culture, data, and ethics—and search for new ways to tackle long-standing organizational challenges. You can listen here or subscribe and follow us on Apple or Spotify (links below).
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Ep.35: Risk People in a Risk-Taking World
Nick Gallo joins Zach and Hui for a wide-ranging discussion on risk, influence, self-preservation, and why compliance and HR must rethink how they create, communicate, and demonstrate value.
Ep.34: The Seduction of Good News
Most compliance board reports are designed to reassure, but the best ones help leaders govern—by sharing real insights, meaningful outcomes, and the uncertainties that matter.
Ep.33: Curiosity Isn’t Dead (but your culture might be stifling it)
SurveyMonkey’s Katie Miserany joins us to explore the hidden barriers to curiosity, the risks of outsourcing thinking to AI, and what leaders can do to build cultures that reward better questions.
Ep.32: Halfway There: Reflections on the Year So Far
A midyear reflection on the biggest themes shaping culture and compliance today—from curiosity and strategy to productivity, meetings, and the struggle to measure performance.
Ep.30: Meetings Don’t Have to Suck!?
Meetings are where productivity goes to die. Or are they? We talk with an expert to dig into better ways to run them—and the small, science-backed changes that make them productive.
Ep.26: The Metrics Not Enough of Us Track
Zach and Hui (once again) break down the difference between outputs and outcomes, highlighting the overlooked data and behavioral metrics that can tell a story about culture, knowledge, and program effectiveness.
Ep.18: Getting to the Root
In this episode of The Better Way?, Zach and Hui dive into the art (and discipline) of root cause analysis—why asking “why” (again, and again) beats blaming a “rogue employee” every time.
Ep.17: From Elves to Ethics
In this episode, Zach and Hui explore how travel experiences—from Icelandic folklore to Uruguayan tea rituals—spark insights into ethics, compliance, and organizational culture.
Ep.16: Keeping Up with the Benchmarkers
In this week’s episode, Zach and Hui unpack the complexities, benefits, and pitfalls of culture and compliance benchmarking.
Ep.14: Outcomes Over Output
Zach and Hui are back on their soap box. In this episode of The Better Way?, they discuss why measuring outcomes isn’t just "a better way," it’s critical to the credibility of our profession.